Part Location Diagram of W680-0004 Napoleon Thermopile
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Thermopile W680-0004

Manufactured by:
Napoleon
ERP Number:
ERP10426379
Part Number:
W680-0004
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$58.75
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  • Napoleon
This part works with the following products:
  • Heating Stove
  • Fireplace & Insert

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Pilot would not stay on

Terry from Ogden, Utah

5 of 5 people found this instruction helpful.
Difficulty Level:
A Bit Difficult
Total Repair Time:
30 - 60 mins
Tools:
Screw drivers, Socket set, Wrench set
Parts Used:
W680-0008, W680-0004, W010-0865
Turned off gas to stove, removed logs and embers; remove 1/4\" screws and remove ember screen; loosed nut holding Thermopile and Thermocouple from mounting bracket; had to loosen screws on main value to rotate slightly to get access to loosen the Thermocouple nut on value, installed new Thermocouple nut on value and carefully routed and slightly bent cooper line of Thermocouple in a circle to clear access are and mounted Thermocouple and nut to mounting bracket; removed wire connections on old Thermopile and installed new Thermopile wire ends; routed new Thermopile wire in access area and installed Thermopile and tighten nut on mounting bracket, tighten screws on main value, installed new ember screen, placed logs and embers back in place and closed front glass door and both side doors, turn gas back on and started pilot light; stone operates as normal.
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Livingroom fireplace fails to light. Voltage from the thermopile was too low. Less than 60 ma after 5 minutes.

William from Kalispell, Montana

3 of 3 people found this instruction helpful.
Difficulty Level:
A Bit Difficult
Total Repair Time:
1- 2 hours
Tools:
Nutdriver, Screw drivers, Socket set
Parts Used:
W680-0004
1.Napoleon natural gas fireplace. Turn off the manual gas valve under the fireplace. remove top and bottom vent covers. disconnect wires from the thermopile at the main gas valve. Terminals TH/TP and TP. Unlatch the door. top and bottom latches. open the door.
2. Remove all ceramic logs, rocks and embers. place in a box for safe k eeping.
3. remove 4 screws holding the burner plate and bottom to the back panel. lift out the burner plate. Vacuum out all dust and bugs.
4. remove 2 screws holding the pilot assembly in place. Lift up the pilot assembly. Unscrew the retaining ring at bottom of the thermopile. Pull thermopile out the bottom and remove.
5. Insert new thermopile. pushing wires down to the bottom. Secure the retaining ring hand tight. fish the wires back to the control valve and secure to the terminals TH/TP and TP. Polarity does not seem to matter. Reinstall all items in 3 and 4.
6. Open manual gas valve and test the pilot and main gas valve to be sure the thermopile puts out the proper voltage (400-600 ma) and gas valve will open.
7. Reinstall all items in 1 and 2 according to the manual instructions.
Notes: sheet metal edges are sharp, wear some rubber gloves. The Thermopile is not accessible from the bottom unless you have very small arms and hands.
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Fire would not stay lit

Robert from VIENNA, Ohio

1 person found this instruction helpful.
Difficulty Level:
A Bit Difficult
Total Repair Time:
1- 2 hours
Tools:
Pliers, Screw drivers, Wrench set
Parts Used:
W680-0004
loosened 2 screws holding wires
removed old thermopile and shield around it
put new thermopile in and fastened down. (not easy cause working upside down)
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Pilot light was on. Fireplace would not start.

Craig from Ballston Spa, New York

1 person found this instruction helpful.
Difficulty Level:
Difficult
Total Repair Time:
More than 2 hours
Tools:
Screw drivers, Socket set, Wrench set
Parts Used:
W680-0005, W680-0004, W361-0016
Napoleon fireplace (natural gas, insert)
I had crescent wrenches (both standard and metric). Standard and Phillips head screwdrivers.
Removed front glass, logs and embers.
Unfastened back panel of fireplace so that it could be lifted to expose screws for bottom panel.
Removed screws for bottom panel and removed bot tom panel. This exposed the pilot \'plate\' that holds the pilot, ignitor, thermocouple and thermopile.
Remove 2 screws that hold this plate to get access to the back of the plate so that the thermocouple and thermopile nuts can be loosened. One of the screws for this plate was stripped and it required a lot of time to get it out.
Fished string through the narrow hole that the copper tube and wires of these two thermo pieces needed to pass through to get to the regulator/control center of the fireplace. Pulled each one through the hole.
Attached new \'thermo\' pieces to the pilot \'plate\' and fastened it back down (this time with a replacement screw for the stripped one).
Attached the wires of the thermopile to the regulator (had to disconnect the wires for the fan/thermostat? temporarily).
Attached the copper tube/wire for the thermocouple to the regulator (had a hard time with this because there was very little finger access to get the fitting at the end to thread into the fitting.
Replaced the bottom panel, lowered and fastened the back panel.
Set the logs back up and placed the glowing embers in front. (be careful with the logs, they are brittle).
Cleaned the glass and reinstalled it, turned gas on, pilot started, fireplace started.
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Fire pilot was on but fireplace would not come on

Ken from LAYTON, Utah

0 of 1 people found this instruction helpful.
Difficulty Level:
Easy
Total Repair Time:
30 - 60 mins
Tools:
Pliers, Screw drivers
Parts Used:
W680-0004
Replace thermopile and it works perfect again
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