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Discussion
Discussion for the Porter Cable FN250A Finish Nailer
I need help,
My gun has pressure, and is not leaking but when i push on the fire trigger nothing happens. Its not fireing (releasing the nails) Can someone help me find thr reason why this is happening?
I am working on a Porter Cable finish nailer, FN250A, I have gotten a kit for the upper end part # 903767. My question is on the skematic of the tool it shows a part number 125, check seal. How far on the cylinder does this check seal slide? Do you slide it past the slotted holes in the cylinder or is it supposed to cover the slots?
Hi there,
The check seal will slide up from the bottom of the cylinder and completely cover the holes in the sleeve. Be sure that the thicker part is pointing up, and that the seal is lightly oiled before you up slide the seal onto the cylinder. I hope this helps,
Gene
I have a FN250A Nail gun Porter Cable - was using it and the breaker went off at home. Gun gave a sound of air coming out. Reset breaker and replugged everything and tried to use gun still was letting air out at top but wouldn't shoot or trigger wouldn't work. Took apart and top bumper is plastic bumper is crumbled and gun won't work at all. What part to order to repair it? Thanks Joe
When driving nails they are bending. They will not go all of the way in. I am nailing Hardie board. I can't seem to figure out the problem. I've used it before with no problem.
My nailer fires the first nail then the driver does not return for the next nail. The driver is not broken, but I did find the plastic piston stop #886113 is shattered at the bottom. Also how does the check seal #886119 install? Do you stretch it so it will fit around the cylinder if so how fare down to you slide it?
The gun is firing but the plunger does not come back past the nail. If I open the front and push the plunger up then it will drive the nail. What part should I replace?
I have the same problem, I opened the tool up to find the driver pin assembly broke at the pin holding the driver to the piston. It should be item #122 on your schematic. But the problem is you/we need to buy the whole driver assembly kit, item #60030 not just the driver and piston. I have had this tool for 6 years and this is the first replacement I have had to do. When the driver breaks from the piston it stays at the nails, and doesn't return to it's reset position.
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william
Clean the gun and replace the upper piston bumper.
I have an older Porter Cable FN250 type 1. The nail driver will not retract. There is a little plastic or nylon cup that sits on top of the drive piston. It is fractured. I am trying to find a replacement and also replace any O-rings, etc. that should be replaced while I have this thing apart. Is there a rebuild kit that includes this plastic cup and essential O-rings and other parts?
I've had this nailer for about 10 years. Mine started to do the same thing, not returning back far enough to pick up a new nail. When I opened it up the piston stop was broken, part #886113. I'm ordering a new one. I think it will cure the problem.
Reply: Finish Nailer Problem
Hoke
It is possible that the Piston Stop has shattered. As the unit gets older the plastic pin stop will get brittle and fail. Remove the 4 screws from the top cap and disassemble. If you see plastic debris, this is probably the problem. Refer to the parts breakdown in this section and order the new parts. When reassembling, be cautious of the o rings, they are a tight fit and will tear if improperly installed.
I have a Porter Cable FN250A that has stopped driving the nail. I don't see any jam and the air pressure seems OK. Is this something easy to fix or should I take it to a professional? Thanks for any suggestions.
My Porter Cable finish nailer misfires the majority of the time. I will turn the air pressure control up and it will work for a while and then start the misfiring again. Any suggestions on what I can do to get it to work correctly?
You may have broken the check seal. Without that, the piston will not retract all the way causing a misfire. Also check to see if there is a piece of nail stuck in the nose.
Let me know how it goes.
Reply: Porter Cable FN250 Finish Nailer
tufunuf
Well...I got tired of trying to figure it out. It is now on Ebay. I started the bidding at $30. You win some and lose some. :) Thanks for the help.
gun will fire but driver does not return. replaced damaged piston stop p.n.#886113 made very little difference. any ideas?? also where exactly does check seal p.n. 886119 set on the cylinder.
Hello Retired1,
The check seal covers the holes on the cylinder, with the "wedge" part pointing up. Hopefully this will take care of your problem.
Gene
Reply: Portercable Finish Nailer FN250A
retired1
[QUOTE=genek;8731]Hello Retired1,
The check seal covers the holes on the cylinder, with the "wedge" part pointing up. Hopefully this will take care of your problem.
Gene"
thank you for your help, will place the check seal in that location and try again after getting my new parts
I have a Porter Cable FN250A Finish Nailer. It shoots fine, but the piston does not retract to allow the next nail to enter, so I have to retract it manually. I opened up the gun and everything appeared to me to be in good shape. I can manually move the piston up and down. It seems to create a seal with a vacuum suction sound when I move it up and down. Everything seemed to be oiled well inside. The plastic cylinder ring was in good shape. I am thinking about ordering the driver rebuild kit, but thought if I understood the theory of operation better, maybe I could figure out the problem. I am guessing here so if someone could explain the theory I would appreciate it. I noticed in the cylinder there are small holes. I am assuming the air enter through those holes normally pushing the piston assembly up. And then when you press the trigger the air is redirected to the top pushing the piston assembly down. I noticed when I push the piston assembly down it goes below those holes. Also could some air be direct up and pushing the piston down? Lastly what does the bumber do and how does it play a role in the piston retracting. Repairing would be easier if I had seen something obviously broken. Any help would be appreciated.
I suggest you do a complete cleaning and rebuild of the unit. I dont mess with just doing a driver rebuild , the complete overhaul takes care of everything and its very easy to do.
unit need porter cable part #903789 complete overhaul kit
heres a little info on how they work
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Reply: Porter Cable FN250A Driver Not R...
rwbil
Let me add to my question. When I took the gun apart I could pull the cylinder up about 2" or so to the point the small holes were outside the main gun body. I did not want to use excess force to pull the cylinder out. Is the cylinder suppose to slide out out of the main gun easily? Also if I replace the bumber and can not slide the cylinder out do I force the bumber through the bottom of the cylinder or top of the cylinder? Any tool recommendation for removing cylinder and bumber and reinstalling.
Robert
Reply: Porter Cable FN250A Driver Not R...
rwbil
The contents of these maintenance kits seems to be complete mystery. I can find no site that says exactly what is included. For 903789 / 60075 some sites say bumber included and other say order seperately. 90367 / 60030 I think is piston, gasket and bumber. Also say a 903756 / 60080, not sure what it contains. Does anyone know the exact breakdown of what is included in these kits. I do not want order a kit to find out the bumber or something else is not included.
Thanks,
Robert
Reply: Porter Cable FN250A Driver Not R...
rwbil
I was able to remove the piston, but now have an additional question. Everything looks to be good shape. The seal can slide up and down. If I slide it all the way up the part 127 cylinder space sits on top of the seal and blocks the air holes. Is that were it sits. Or maybe the design is such that at certain points it is suppose to block and at certain points it is suppose to be below the air holes. Any info would be appreciated. I think I am first just going to disassemble clean and regrease. Any suggestion of the right grease to use.
Reply: Porter Cable FN250A Driver Not R...
DAVECAD
As you may have already discovered, the Porter Cable FN 250A finish nailer is a huge POS!
I had shot approximately one hundred nails with mine when the Nose Cushion P/N 429 totally disintegrated. After about three hundred nails it would only fire once. I had to manually reset for each shot. Disassembled the gun and found that the Piston Bumper P/N 114 was a pile of crumbs. I don’t expect equipment to last forever but, with so little use? I would describe this as a “Toy”, not a “Tool”.
Reply: Porter Cable FN250A Driver Not R...
UtahAV
Sorry to hear that you have had such poor success with your gun. My experience with mine has been very different. I have owned a FN250a for around 10 years now and have had nothing but trouble free use. My gun is primarily used in a home woodshop but I have also installed trim in 3 basements, a family room and several bed rooms. It has not been used professionally by any means but it has definitely had some use. Out of curiosity, what brand of oil do you use when you lubricate the gun? That is the only thing I can think of that could cause the bumper to fail prematurely.
-UtahAV
-Mark
Reply: Porter Cable FN250A Driver Not R...
retired1
replaced all my bad seals along with the plastic piston stop, gun fired fine for about 30 nails then quit working. driver will fire once and then won't retract,pulling air hose off then manually pushing driver back there is air pressure against the driver so for some reason there is no air release after firing the gun, HELP any ideas
I so glad that I found this forum, looks like my kind of place. I've got a Porter Cable FN250A nail gun thats 10+ years old, with very light use and well cared for. The driver is not retracting all the way back now to pick up a nail, and I looked to find that the piston bumper is shattered inside. It also is leaking a little air out the trigger now, maybe related to piston not resetting? Do I just get the bumper or rebuild the whole thing. The manual shows a top kit -60028, and bottom-60009 but I think these have been changed. What I'm finding are Driver Maintenance Kit 60030 & 903767, and Overhaul Kit 903789. I can't seem to find a answer to, do these kit overlap, which is more complete. Sorry for my ignorance this is all new stuff, but I'm willing to learn. I don't fear taking anything apart. Thanks Robert
Welcome bulletpusher. Usually the piston bumper is to blame when your driver isn't retracting, and since yours is shattered it's a good bet that replacing it will fix your problem (part #886122, $20.67). As for the trigger valve leak, it is probably unrelated to the driver retraction problem. There is a trigger valve assembly available to repair that problem (part #A08368, $28.40).
In the case of the FN250A you're in luck though, because the overhaul kit contains both the bumper and the trigger valve for $34.95 which is definitely what I'd recommend. The driver maintenance kit only contains the driver, compression ring, and bumper. Here's a link to the overhaul kit for your nailer:
Thanks Mike for clarifying what the different kits contain, thats what I was unsure of. I look forward to "This old dog, learning a new trick." Thanks again
Reply: Porter Cable FN250A Nail Gun Kit...
Moon
Mike, your post of sometime back about the FN250A was extremely helpful to me . I ordered and received the overhaul kit. However there is no cylinder bumper in it. Should there be?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Mike;2226]Welcome bulletpusher. Usually the piston bumper is to blame when your driver isn't retracting, and since yours is shattered it's a good bet that replacing it will fix your problem (part #886122, $20.67). As for the trigger valve leak, it is probably unrelated to the driver retraction problem. There is a trigger valve assembly available to repair that problem (part #A08368, $28.40).
In the case of the FN250A you're in luck though, because the overhaul kit contains both the bumper and the trigger valve for $34.95 which is definitely what I'd recommend. The driver maintenance kit only contains the driver, compression ring, and bumper. Here's a link to the overhaul kit for your nailer:
Mike, I was in error. The overhaul kit did have the bumber in it.
The plastic piston stop was shattered and I have ordered separately the piston stop.
Again, thanks for the excellent post.
[QUOTE=Moon;2873]Mike, your post of sometime back about the FN250A was extremely helpful to me . I ordered and received the overhaul kit. However there is no cylinder bumper in it. Should there be?
Thanks."
Reply: Porter Cable FN250A Nail Gun Kit...
ncmike811
Mike, in doing the re-assembly, does the check seal slide over the cylinder? If so, where should it rest on the outside of the cylinder? When the cylinder is inserted, the seal gets pushed up as the cylinder is seated, but I'm afraid it may be blocking the holes in the cylinder. Thanks.
Reply: Porter Cable FN250A Nail Gun Kit...
cmoorejack
Hey Bulletpusher,
The check seal actually is supposed to cover the holes on the outside of the cylinder..[it helps diffuse the exhaust air..] the lip goes toward the top and the whole seal fits it the slot with the holes..make sure you install the cylinder spacer first and then slide the check seal up from the bottom of the cylinder and then reinsert the whole she-bang back into the tool..:)
Hope this helps..!
Craig
Reply: Porter Cable FN250A Nail Gun Kit...
BillS2009
I'm going to bring this thread back, I have an FN250A that the driver is not retracting. I have replaced the driver, and both bumpers. Still won't retract. Any ideas?
Reply: Porter Cable FN250A Nail Gun Kit...
cmoorejack
Hey BILLS2009,
Try a little air tool oil on the o-rings..also try plugging in the air with the safety depressed and trigger engaged..[to 'reset' it]..You may have a o- ring or trigger problem..the best thing to do in this case is to install an overhaul kit..# 60075
it has all the o-rings and trigger assy..
hope this helps..?
cmoorejack
Reply: Porter Cable FN250A Nail Gun Kit...
Jason2
I am new to this but sure could use some clarification. I received a Porter Cable FN250A for repairs (driver not returning). When I took the tool apart I found the bumper facing cone down towards the nose. I do not have a ton of P/C experience but I believe the cone is supposed to face up towards the driver.
Any clarification would help?
Reply: Porter Cable FN250A Nail Gun Kit...
cmoorejack
Hey Jason2,
It is supposed to face up..sorry for the late response..hopefully you got your gun back up and going..:)
cmoorejack
Reply: Porter Cable FN250A Nail Gun Kit...
Ayrton
Bumping this old thread to keep all the relevant info in the same place.
My wife picked up a used FN250A for me, however it appears have a blown ring or seal. When firing, there is no pressure built up
I have read there are several overhaul kits, but I need to know what exactly is wrong before I can replace parts. I am sure I can figure all this out with a good dis-assembly diagram.
Thanks
Reply: Porter Cable FN250A Nail Gun Kit...
mumford
Hello, I'm trying to figure out why my fn250 (after a complete overhaul) still leaks air somewhere around the trigger. It works ok but it's driving me crazy. Thanks, Mumford
Reply: Porter Cable FN250A Nail Gun Kit...
pforporter
[QUOTE=cmoorejack;4244]Hey Jason2,
It is supposed to face up..sorry for the late response..hopefully you got your gun back up and going..:)
cmoorejack"
Hey cmoorejack, I think it's really cool that ur willing to give of ur expertise. I go to so many of these forums or help sites where so many people only do it for a buck. Ur alrite,
pforporter ;) P.S. I to was putting a new piston stop, in my FN250A and had not seen where the check ring was when i pulled it apart. I wondered about where u said, but the way the diagram was laid out it wasen't very clear, thanks for that.
Reply: Porter Cable FN250A Nail Gun Kit...
confusedagain
ok read the threads ogf 2009 . so let me get this right when the drive rod doesn't return . it is because of the bumper seal ... well my rod doesn't return ... i have good pressure .i pulled the head off and the bumper seal was just fine .... small end of cone of bumper was facing down for the seal top fit around valve on the head. when i press the trigger some air comes out but not near when it was working .... what's going on ?
hadn't used it in a while and u said usually bumper seal at fault..... any ideas of my problem.....
Mine stopped working and it needs a driver blade ($65) and piston bumper at least, which cost $15 !! With an overhaul kit of $70, it's costing over $150 to maintain this one. That's too much. Other brands are far less for parts. Next time, I'm checking parts costs before buying. Porter Cable is a fail due to parts costs.
Note to all of you having trouble with the upper piston bumper "shattering". The wrong lubricant will do this. The part in question is nylon - which is an excellent choice for this application, as long as you don't expose it to aliphatic or chlorinated hydrocarbon solvents. If you do, it's toast. That's not the tool's fault. That's user error. Use only the proper air tool oil, The proper air tool oil is NOT WD-40, Marvel Mystery oil, and especially not spray cans of anything, like carb or brake cleaner, ( I know, but you'd be amazed at what folks spray in their air tools, thinking they are "helping it work better".) Also, I'd avoid the cheap Chinese oil from Harbor Freight. Just buy the right stuff. It only takes 2 or 3 drops every use.