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Discussion for the Porter Cable C2002 Type 3 1HP 6 Gallon Compressor
Hi rambone,
The ring is teflon and the cylinder is chrome plated.It needs no lube or oil.Anything like that will attract dust and act as a lapping compound causing premature wear of the piston and cylinder.Hope that helps.Good luck.
Tinker
This valve doesn't stop the air from coming out and the compressor continues to run.
I need to know if this is a part I can replace without having to take the compressor somewhere to be fixed. The compressor is less than a year old.
I have a pancake compressor that was purchased in 2010. Recently I noticed that pressure was not being diverted from the tank through the manifold pressure regulator outward to the hose (output gauge reads 0 pressure). When disassembling the pressure regulator, I noticed the plastic check valve nipple internally was broken off. In looking at the parts manual, the only replacement is the manifold. Can i purchase just the valve assembly without purchasing the entire manifold? Thanx, DBilleaudeau
Hey dbilleaudeau, It seems that Porter Cable has a problem with this year(2010) model. I received one for christmas 2010 and I'm having the exact same problem with mine. Unfortunately the repair places where I live will not touch my compressor without a receipt so I am dead in the water. I hope someone responds with some good news.
Reply: C2002 Manifold Check Valve
WJA
Hello dbilleaudeau,
Porter Cable does have a 3 year limited warranty from date of purchase. Contact either a PC factory Service Center or an Authorized Service Center, hopefully you still have a receipt.
Hello ParaBellum,
You might try to contact the Porter Sales rep. in your area, and explain your situation maybe he can take care of your problem.
Good luck
-WJA
Reply: C2002 Manifold Check Valve
kooldad87
Has anyone found a check valve without buying the manifold? I've only used my compressor for the thrid time and can't find the receipt. HELP!!!
seams like the presure adjuster has a problem from what im reading.
i also have no air to tools, and it seams to be in the regulator,,maybe porter cable should do something about this,, this compressor wes used on one job,,,porter cable tools should not be throw away tools !!!! please address the problem and get us the parts to fix it. do not nickle dime me after buying your tools. JR
If you are having problems with your Porter-Cable compressor and if it is within the warranty period. Take it to the nearest Porter-Cable authorized service center for service. To find one in your area just Google " Porter Cable Service".
Hope that helps,
WJA
Reply: No Air To Tools
jrobinsonco
o so easy,,just find a service center and drop it off. diesal is around &4.00 a gallon and my time is $82.00 pur hour im still looking at a loss. thanks. i chose to buy porter-cable becouse out of the gate its a better tool,,i do also have other porter-cable equiptment. at this point i have fixed it myself. the PLASTIC dimple came unglued off the plastic adjuster washer. a little super-glue and some pro-poxy to make shure the plastic stays together this time. but its not a warm fuzzy feeling to see someone like porter-cable using a low end part like this,,, once again from what im reading just maybe you all should think about who your buying this plastic from and have them make a better one. this is not like you guys.!!!
JR
Reply: No Air To Tools
Michael
Your best course of action is probably to bring your complaint to Porter Cable themselves.
Either way, I'm just glad you got your compressor working. We do our best to help you find the best repair solution for your situation, but we're ill-equipped to tell Porter Cable how to build their compressors.
If you put your ZIP Code in on Porter Cable's website, you'll get an address and contact info for the nearest Service Center. You can find their site here:
I WENT TO MY COMPRESSOR TODAY AND THE SAME THING HAPPENED. HOW DO YOU FIX IT???
Reply: No Air From Gauge Side
Rick
Mine has the same issue. I have tinkered for a few hours and located the problem. If you unscrew the regulator completely and remove the spring you will see a metal nipple on the inside. Around that is a plastic ring. The best I gather the way the regulator is supposed to work is it compresses the nipple the more you turn it. Now if it is airtight inside the regulator you get compressed air from your tank.
I found this out by removing the regulator and then placing my thump over the metal nipple in there and pressing in. You will feel air begin to flow past your thumb. The air will move the plastic ring forward and in turn seal against your thumb. All the sudden you will feel a lot of pressure when you try to push inward. You will also notice your outlet gauge increase as you try to push the plastic ring back over the nipple (b/c you have made a seal and your pushing pressure toward the outlet side- which is what a good regulator does).
Unfortunately, it appears you have to spend $70 for a new manifold to fix the issue. I am going to go to Home Depot unscrew the regulator for the pump on display to see if there is a rubber grommet or something I am missing. If not I am going to buy one that fits around that nipple so that when the pointed plastic part on the regulator cap (look inside you'll see it) begins to press the metal nipple in, it will seal like its supposed to and divert the air to my outlet gauge.
I have a Porter Cable 3hp 6 gallon compressor. It runs and the tank pressurizes. When I hook a hose to it, I can't get any tools to work. No air comes out. If I adjust the regulator, it doesn't make any difference. I can pull the relief on the bottom and bleed off air and the compressor will restart and cycle off. Any ideas?
The compressor will only go up to 90psi and runs continuously without stopping. When I turn it off, it holds pressure and no leaks are detected. Any suggestions?
My compressor starts 90% of the time. 10% of the time it tries and after about three times of trying it will eventually start. I am thinking its the check valve bleeding through and not starting under a load. Should I replace the check valve?
If the compressor runs, builds pressure and then continues to run past the normal shutoff point then the problem is the pressure switch. The pressure switch is part #N003307.
If the compressor runs but doesn't build pressure or builds to a pressure lower than the pressure switch cutoff point and won't build anymore then the piston and cylinder are worn out. The piston & cylinder are sold as a kit which is part #KK-4964.
When compressor reaches set pressure and turns off - - air
bleeds off within the unit and will go to O # if let set long enough. Sometimes it will stop if I turn the unit on and then off
within a couple of seconds running. Whats causing?
I think the problem is the tank check valve. If the valve doesn't seal off air will bleed back to the cylinder. There is a small vent hole in the cylinder head to bleed off the air escaping from the check valve. A new check valve should solve the problem. The check valve is part #D27022 and it is available from http://www.ereplacementparts.com.
The plastic part inside the heavy spring that controls the psi to the tools is broken and I do not see any replacement listed for it. What should I do?
That is part of the manifold assembly. Porter Cable does not provide any individual parts for the manifold. It will need to be replaced as one unit. The manifold is part #N003001 and it is available from http://www.ereplacementparts.com.
What is up with the tool/regulated air side on the compressor?? I've used it maybe 4-5 times and it no longer supplies air to the tool side only to the tank side. Is it a defect??? Not to mention the product carries a hefty price tag compared to comparable products. This really stinks the product was recommended by my father in law. Is there a solution???
Assuming that the regulator is properly set then I would guess that the problem is with the regulator on the manifold. Porter Cable does not offer the regulator parts separate from the manifold assembly. You will need to order the manifold. The manifold is part # N003001 and is available from http://www.ereplacementparts.com.
Good luck with your repair!
-Mark
Reply: No Air On Tool Side
Kevin
I experienced the same problem, used the compressor 4 times and no air pressure registering on the gauge and no air for the tool side. The manifold appears to cost more than 1/2 the price of the compressor
Reply: No Air On Tool Side
Rick
I had the same issue and identified it as being the regulator. Of course, the part is not sold separate from the manifold ($70). I attempted to make a good seal inside the regulator by using a couple different rubber washers. I had limited success with one that gave me only about 50 psi out of the tool side. Needless to say, the fix wasn't enough.
Good-bye porter cable. Hello Dewalt (I should have started with this). Instead of being out $350 for the Dewalt, I am out $529 since I wasted $179 on a Porter Cable.
I have a Porter Cable compressor that quit running. I want to take the covers off so I can check out the problem. The screws look like Torx heads with a pin in the center. Is there a special tool to remove them and where can I find such a tool?
That style of fastener is called a "Security Torx". You should be able to find a driver from a specialty tool supplier. I know that Snap-On sells them and I would assume that Matco or Mac would also. You could also try a Sears store, they might have them.
The compresser will run up to 80 PSI and will not shut off.! but if i shut it off it is still holding 80 PSI and dosen't seem to be leaking air.? supposed to hit 150 PSI ?
I have the same problem but 90 PSI talked with compressor repair company local and they say it's the sleeve and ring and estimated parts price $100.00 not including labor. It's just a bad design mechanically.
Fairly new C2002. Pressures up tank to 150, shuts off, but no (zero) pressure to outlets for tools. Took apart pressure adjustment on manifold and appears that the part that pushes on the air control (disk with a small head on it that the spring sits on) is broken. Do you see this small piece? Don't want to buy a new manifold for a 2 cent part. Works fine otherwise just no air to the tool outlets.
The same thing happened to mine, I have yet to find a replacement part. I haven't even used it yet.
Reply: No Pressure To Tools
stony
same here
Used it once and now am stuck. I certainly wouldn't purchase a new manifold just to have it do it again. Gotta be a place to get this somewhere.
Reply: No Pressure To Tools
Jeff
I have this same problem. I let someone borrow the compressor and they must have removed the pressure adjustment knob and lost part of the mechanism. All I have is the knob, the spring and a small nipple that goes inside - - not sure what is missing but know that something is. Anyone found a solution yet?
Reply: No Pressure To Tools
Gordon Nordmark
Same problem. I purchased the C2002 with accessories last year. Never used it. Took it out of the box last month, went thru its "break-in" steps. Tank pressured up fine but no air came thru various nozzles. Turned regulator knob and it came off the threaded male housing. Only parts inside were a spring, short black molded ferrule and an O ring. I didn't see any other parts to enable release of air to the outlets. Replacement manifolds run $69 to $120 plus shipping and additional labor. Seems very unfair.
Reply: No Pressure To Tools
Randy
I have the same problem and it looks like the manifold needs to be replaced unless there is a fix on it but the replacement is as much as the compressor itself is new well a few bucks cheaper absolutely ridiculous I think
Reply: No Pressure To Tools
boof
The same problem. The manual adjustment valve requires that a small plastic part that is held down with a heavy spring inside seems to be broken. All that is required is that plastic part. Why can't we just get those internal parts required? This unit is less than one year old and has only gone thru the original box of nails that it came with. (Disappointed)
Reply: No Pressure To Tools
Larry
I have the same problem.
Used it a couple of times, then it just would not build up any pressure at all.
Porter Cable replaced the regulator and it worked fine a couple more times.
I haven't used it in a couple of months, just turned it on and guess what.....SAME PROBLEM--it will not build up pressure.
THIS IS THE LAST PORTER CABLE PRODUCT I WILL EVER BUY.
Taking it to the dump, not worth paying another $68 for a new regulator.
Reply: No Pressure To Tools
G
So I have the same issue with the plastic plug that presses on the check valve in the regulator. Since the regulator is part of the manifold, we have to buy a new one. Has anyone added another new regulator assembly third party to the unregulated side?
Reply: No Pressure To Tools
wayne
Get a manifold for a c2005; it costs about 16 bucks.
Reply: No Pressure To Tools
Jay
I've got the same problem too. For the cost of the manifold regulator from PC, I may just put another quality regulator in place and not have the fancy cover. Lousy cheap part.
I have about 5 pancake porter cable compressors with the same problem...they will no longer pump up and hold air. What is it?
Reply: Air Escaping
Mark
Hi Mark,
The problem is the Check Valve. The check valve is not sealing off completely so air is leaking back to the cylinder. There is a vent to allow the air to escape out of the cylinder. A new Check Valve should solve the problem. The Check Valve is part #D27022 and is available from http://www.ereplacementparts.com.
If there is zero pressure check the drain valve and make sure it is closed. Check all of the tubing and hoses for leaks. If there is still no pressure or low pressure then it is most likely that the cylinder and piston are worn out and will need to be replaced. The Connecting Rod Kit, part #KK-4964, will replace the cylinder and piston.
I have a C2002 Type 2. Pressure builds to just under 100 lbs. Will not go higher and motor keeps running. Do I need to buy the Connecting Rod Kit # KK4964 because the piston leaks?
The inability of the compressor to build pressure is caused by wear to both the piston and the cylinder. To make the repair you will need the Connecting Rod Kit, part #KK-4964. the kit includes the piston, connecting rod, and cylinder wall.
My Porter Cable compressor leaks air from the the head area, and there appears to be a small hole in top of the head. What's the hole for, and how do I fix the problem? It's not even a year old, and it's used minimally.
Bobby I have basically the same and was given some advice to look at the check valve going into the tank...Mine appears to be stuck so I'm going to replace it. That small hole is apparently for relieving the pressure off the compressor cylinder after it stops running... The check valve is supposed to prevent all of the air in the tank from also escaping into that hole. My first thought when I saw the small hole was it must be a casting imperfection.... Geeesh
Reply: C2002 Compressor Leak
Pete
There is a small orange O ring type thing that is on the aluminum tube going into the head. It has a slot that the ring slides into on the tube and the top locks into the head and valve plate. Its a fairly easy fix. You will need a Torx screwdriver to open up the motor housing. Its a #25 size Torx screw. Take the head off the piston (4 hex screws) and you will see the O ring. The O ring was leaking for some time on mine because it kept on turning on even when not being used. Today it blew out and it wouldn't build any pressure. The O-ring costs $1.76. Cheap fix. Look at that first before you spend a fortune on other parts. Good Luck
Why is the ring replacement kit not listed on the C2002 type 3 parts list, but it is on other models compatible with it ? Dumb question, but the ring replacement kit for a C2005 type 0, is less than half the price of the connecting rod kit shown for the C2002 type 3 .
Mine has done this in extremely cold weather in Wisconsin. I believe something is freezing up because as soon as I take it inside to warm up it worked fine good Luck
I have been given a Porter Cable Model C2002. It is leaking air at the drain valve. The compressor continues to run trying to overcome the small leak. I could use the compressor for short periods but can the drain valve be replaced without damaging the air tank? An if so, Can I do it? I am reasonably handy but do want to destroy the opening for the drain valve.
I see the part here and was just wondering ........maybe I could fix this......
Recently purchased a Porter Cable C2002 compressor. It's only 2 months old with minimal use.
I was using it earlier today. I adjusted the pressure to max as I have a stubborn bolt to remove.
When I was waiting for it to catch up with full pressure I noticed the compressor got noticably louder and it would no longer build any more pressure. So i drained all the air and started it again, It will only build pressure to 50 PSI and no higher. I shut it off and all is quiet. It's not leaking anywhere. After 2 hours of being off and not used it still has 50 psi in it.
Any Ideas what to look for?
I will call Porter Cable customer service as it is less than 2 months old. Hopefully they will help. I bought this figuring it was a good quality brand.
It sounds as if the problem is a worn out piston and cylinder. I think this was a case of not enough compressor for the work being done. The C2002 has a CFM output of 2.6 CFM @ 90psi. I assume from your post about the bolt that you where using an impact wrench. A typical impact wrench requires between 4 and 5 CFM to operate properly. I think that is why the bolt didn't want to budge. The C2002 compressor has a tank that holds 6 gallons of air. Using a tool that requires 5 CFM with a 6 gallon tank will cause the compressor to turn on after about 15 seconds of use and then run continuously until the tool is shut off.
All air compressors have what is called a Duty Cycle Rating. Sometimes the manufacture publishes the rating sometimes not. What the duty cycle rating tells us is the amount of time the compressor may be running during a given job. For example, if you have a compressor with a Duty Cycle Rating of 50% and your job is going to take you one hour, the compressor can not run for more that 30 minutes of that hour. This does not mean that you can allow the motor to run for 30 continuous minutes during that hour. The 30 minutes of running must be spread out evenly during the 60 minutes that the job takes to complete. A small, oil less compressor like yours probably has a Duty Cycle Rating of about 35% to 45%. A compressor that is lubricated by oil will usually have a higher Duty Cycle Rating, approximately 50 to 60%. Large industrial compressors, usually with 80 gallon or bigger tanks will quite often have continuous Duty Cycle Ratings. Knowing a bit about Duty Cycle Ratings can help you to select the proper size and quality compressor for the type of work you want to do. To operate an impact wrench I would consider a compressor with an oil lubricated pump and a tank that is about 25 gallons or larger.
To repair your compressor you will need a piston and cylinder kit. The kit is part #KK-4964 and is available from ereplacementparts.com
Hey danny1,
You will need to remove the piston/rod first..[place a large punch or screwdriver between the open slots of the bottom pulley braced against the housing..remove the screw holding the bottom of the piston] the piston should move out of the way enough to start removing the belt off the bottom pulley..[a flat blade screwdriver should suffice.].to install the new one..start with the small pulley first and then feed or push the belt on the bottom one..reattach the bottom of the piston and reassemble..:)
hope this is helpful...
cmoorejack
compressor runs up to about 90 psi then the hose from pump to the tank gets real hot and the pressure starts to drop. check valve is o.k. tried to check piston, but do not know how to get piston out of head?
Hey c.w180,
Once you have removed item #13 screw from the case [there may be 2 of them..1 on each side] and slid the whole pump assy off the tank..[you may have to unhook the electrical also] you remove the screws from the housing and separate..then you will have access to the piston/pump/motor assy..4 screws on the top plate..[check item #104 tube seal for wear or breakage ] you may have a worn out piston/seal assy..a worn out or broken valve plate or just that darn tube seal letting air leak out while its try to pump up..:)
parts and breakdown avail at ereplacementparts.com..
[caution..this repair is not for the faint of link removed women..or left-handed people..]:D
hope this helps..?
cmoorejack
A never used compressor will not let air through the regulator; I'm glad to see other people with this problem, for it tells me I made a mistake buying product and the manufacturer knows of the problem.
It sounds like I have the same problem with the manifold leaking air. The part costs almost as much as I paid for the whole air compressor. What a rip. This will be my last Porter Cable.
I rate this product with a 0. I had big expectations and was excited about my new/used comp. I wasn't told there was a problem with it leaking until I got it home. After I learned the problem, I decided to repair the comp. When I saw the price of the manifold part I about flipped out. Not only was I deceived by one guy, now Porter Cable wants to stick it to me as well. No reason why Porter Cable can't sell us repair parts to repair this manifold. Porter Cable is ripping us off. I just need the plastic parts under the handle. Why can't Porter Cable do that for us? I did notice others are having the same problem. Why can't Porter Cable help us out? This was my first Porter Cable product and it looks brand new but unless Porter Cable can help with the solution this may me my last purchase. I believe this comp. has never been used, it was still in the box. Come on Porter Cable, you can do better than this, you just got to want too. SURE AM DISAPPOINTED SO FAR ------MAKE IT GOOD OK